Artur Beterbiev V Dmitrii Bivol

Great points, it may sound strange but I agree with your close round analogy, a lot of the rounds in this particular fight were very close, if your only scoring by punch landed, but I believe giving fighters credit for pressure fighting, slipping punches and being the more skilled in his style.
but looking from a promoters point of view, I think Hearn had every right to say what he said, that’s what makes boxing what it is, everyone has their opinion and everyone is their own expert.

What you have described with the scoring points system, they do this to a point in the olympics, having 5 judges instead of the 3 that’s in Professional, but they have the 10 point must system too.
The winner of the round is the one that lands the most punches but in my opinion being able to dodge, weave and avoid punches is half the art of the game, and the training, learning and practice that goes into that should be looked at as as much skill as landing a clean shot, having a computerised punch landed system would just penalise the slick skilful boxer.
I think it was the 92 olympics they brought in the computer scoring system and all it did was make the fights less entertaining because the boxers became a lot more defensive and hesitation became a big factor in letting their punches go in fear of being counted.
I think right now we have the best system in professional boxing, as a spectator controversy is part of the excitement of boxing.
As a boxer & trainer I have experienced and been part of a team that’s been on the arse end of the wrong decision/controversy and it sucks.
But I still wouldn’t change it.

I have two view points on the single organisation, I think it works well in the UFC but Boxing is special, and the lower less regarded governing bodies are used (or should be) as stepping stones to the bigger ones like WBC/WBA, it gives the fighter something to aim at by cleaning up the division becoming unified and ultimately unanimous champion before ultimately moving up in weight or retirement.

Having being of age to have lived through the Eubank/Benn era, I would love to see their sons fight, there is a true rivalry between these families not something manufactured to sell tickets.
The build up & press conferences would be as much entertainment as the fight itself, and it’s something I would happily pay for.

I like your point on it’s the boxers that are getting hit in the face, there is an organisation called Boxers in Need that I’m apart of that’s goal is to help boxers after they have left the sport along with amateur clubs that need support.
100% of all profits going to helping support ex-boxers & amateur clubs.

I appreciate all the points you made, and respect your opinions, it’s good to have debate and totally ok to disagree.

Thanks DDD for the reply

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From your experience do you think the amateurs are good preparation for the professional game? It seems like a very different game.

Recently I have noticed a few fighters who have been great at amateur level, but not really made the successful transition to professional. Whether that is because they have been fast tracked too quickly or the differences between amateur and professional are too significant for some, I’m not sure.

Good question

I’m 100% in the mind that having a good amateur pedigree will always be the best road into the professional ranks, but I agree it’s a totally different game.
Your preparation, training and mindset has to be completely different.
Saying that, there are more & more amateur gyms now that just don’t have the right mentality around the sport.
The sport in my opinion should always be about respect & discipline.
But I see more boxers not following instructions and lacking discipline.
Yes ultimately the boxer is in the ring, but he can’t see what a trainer/cornerman can, he can’t spot the weakness or the mistakes that can cost them the fight.
And again in the pro game, how many times have we heard bad advice from cornermen in the last few years.
Going back to a point you made, yes I do think there has been a few boxers that have been fast tracked into becoming pro, but I think that applies to trainers too.

Boxing has never been more more popular in my opinion, and I think that’s due to the money involved, with sponsors not wanting to miss the next big thing, a lot of younger boxers are getting deals before they have made a real impact.

Take Mayweather, the first couple of years of turning pro, he was fighting almost ever month for the first 2 years up until he wins the WBC featherweight. This is where he transitioned from the amateur to the pro game.
We all know that younger pro fighters are going to be matched with weaker opponents the first few years, but it seems now that they are only fighting twice a year, and that’s just not enough to prepare them for the bigger fights a few years into being pro.
My old trainer used to say
“get used to being comfortable by being uncomfortable”
And that’s what I tell my guys now.
Unless you have an injury, fight as many times as you can.

All of the above is only my opinion, I’m not saying this is the only way, it just works for me.

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Thanks for your reply.
FYI…I have just been reading about Boxers in Need, and it looks like a very worthwhile project. I will be paying my membership tomorrow :boxing_glove:

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That’s awesome

It really is 100% for the retired Boxers that need a little help

Thanks DDD :boxing_glove:

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